A Better Exchange
I read with interest David Brooks' op-ed piece in the Times, The
Moral Power of Curiosity. It was about Michael Lewis’ new book, "Flash Boys.” I
want to read this, having enjoyed (?) his previous bestsellers. The new book, like "The Big Short” focuses on a few
insiders who figure out how things are working on Wall Street (or not). In
"Flash Boys” one of the good guys, Brad Katsuyama decides to design an exchange
where "market rigging” would not work. Why didn’t he shut up and make money
like so many others? Wasn’t it all legal?
My question for the Forum: why doesn’t Congress immediately pass a
few laws which will support such an Exchange?
Bart
Last Sunday's New York Times
magazine had Brad Katsuyama on its cover, and a main story of his exploits and
interviews with the others who helped form the new exchange. He was
leaked off that his job at Royal Bank of Canada was being made difficult by the
fast traders screwing around with him. Whenever he tried to buy a big
amount or sell at a listed price, the price would move away. The
fast traders "spoofed" by offering to buy or sell, and when a large
enough offer came back their computers dropped the offer within microseconds
and returned immediately with a worse deal. In addition, the big transfer
shares for their customers without going to the markets at all. The big
banks still do, and anybody who uses one of them as a broker is guaranteed to
lose several cents per shore on any trades. The new exchange that
Katsuyama and his partners from RBC built will allow only three options... and
offer to buy or an offer to sell at a started price, or an order to buy
or sell at the mean of the last buy and sell offers, combined with a coil of
optical fiber a few miles long that delays any responses by a sufficient
fraction of a second that fast trading is physically impossible. Any
offer can be executed before it can be withdrawn. If Congress doesnt act,
their exchange will either drive the NYSE and others out of business of force
them to install similar gadgetry.
Jacques Read
Congress won't pass such a law because they will get paid
more for not doing it compared to doing it.
John Futhey
The problem is not the laws, it is the technology and the
attitude. The stock markets have a valid purpose in that they provide a place
for investors to move capital to the companies they think will be most
productive. The traders in the market also have a valid purpose, by speculating
they provide liquidity to the investors. Insider trading, as properly defined,
is the use of inside knowledge that an announcement is about to be made to
profit by jumping the market. That is already against the law.
The insiders Lewis talks of (and I liked his first two books) in this case are
not dealing in information about the company, they are looking at the trades
another trader is making. I think I've mentioned it before, the stock markets
have been "dishonest" since the Sixties in my definition. An honest
market is one where a multitude of individual decisions comes to a value. In
the mid sixties we had the academics seeking a quantification of value - they
came up with stability of quarterly earnings growth. Problem there is that the
criterion is invalid, a quarter is too short a period. I worked for a firm in
the seventies that would pay overtime to get shipments out on the weekend at
the end of the quarter so they could book them as sales in a bad quarter - and
would hold shipments back at the end of a good quarter just to make that
appearance of a steady growth of quarterly earnings. It cost the firm money,
but enhanced the stock in the eyes of the academics. The other Sixties factor
was the go-go fund, the Manhattan Fund under Gerry Tsai being the first. Use a
mutual fund as a trading mechanism to beat the market instead of a long term investment
medium. The fallacy there is that if everyone is trying to beat the market with
massive funds then they become the market. By 1970 the funds were more
concerned about finding out what the others were doing than evaluating long
term investments. There is a parallel to the now illegal pooling of the
Twenties - although that was collusion and this was competition.
The current scam is the leasing of high speed lines into the exchanges so that
trades executed on one can be seen then jumped on another before the original
trader gets through to them. This is "insider" at the trade level,
not the investor level.
To me the problem is the entire idea of massive trading for profit - it is
pooling in a new way. Computerized trading, based on market movements, is
anathema to me. In the old days a floor trader on the NYSE didn't want to know
what should happen, he just wanted to see what was happening. But he was an
intermediary, he bought his inventory in round lots so that his firm could sell
odd lots - his success was when his minute by minute inventory matched the
orders coming into his firm (thin when there was selling, heavy when there was
buying). But this wasn't massive trading, it was at the margin.
My old rule was that an honest market was about 80% investors and 20%
speculation - I think it is now reversed, and the market dictates the price
rather than the investment value. Our Carl Icahn has done very well by looking
at investment value, as has Warren Buffet (although their approaches are different
in many ways).
Glass/Steagal was a good law, but its repeal didn't cause a problem as it had
been already effectively repealed by the Bank Holding Company Act of the
Seventies.
This is off the top of my head, and I haven't fully thought out this new issue.
But I think we need less laws on the details and a few simple ones on the
specifics. It is too late tonight for me to propose them, but they basically
have to do with the size of automated transactions (in relation to the
outstanding stock). That would not limit a large buy or sell negotiated between
stockholders off market. The also would go back to the basic principle of
Glass/Steagal so that investment banks had to be partnerships with unlimited
liability so that speculation would be with the speculator's money rather than
corporate funds.
I'll drop it here for further thought and comment.
Best, Jon (Murphy)
A simple answer from one who has
dallied in the market for over forty years with little trades and smaller
earnings, the politicians are too busy protecting their backends as they
prepare for the next election just around the corner. If the Tea Party
doesn't have them scared, the NRA or the latest environmental cause keeps their
eye on "the money" and not on the nation. Greed and Self
interest rule the halls of Congress these days. There are too many
politicians and too few statesmen for the good of the nation.
That's my two bits (and only worth
that at most) for today. I hope to see you at the Reunions and would be
interested in hearing more on the subject.
Al Kissling
Bart – You have touched a nerve. I have a lot to say about HFT (high frequency
trading) and have been saying a lot about it to many people in recent years.
Here’s my story: I
have always been interested in the why and wherefore of our equity
markets. Why do they behave the way they
do? Why does Black Swan theory seem so
applicable to what happens from time to time our markets? How does the changing constituency of the
players change the way markets behave?
So when I realized a number of years ago that the majority
of the trading volume in our markets was accounted for by HFTs, a group of
firms that few knew anything about, and that at the same time the behavior of
the markets was changing in ways that seemed to defy rationale explanation, I
knew I had to find out what this HFT thing was all about. By then I had a large, deep Wall Street
network, so I started asking questions.
No one seemed to have answers until I spoke with a very good friend with
whom I had over the years had many confidential conversations. He had for many years been a key partner in
one of the biggest Wall Street firms, one known far and wide for its trading
acumen.
Even he knew little when we started to talk. He knew the rudiments of how the HFTs
operated but little more, and even I knew that by then. What we wanted to know was just how much
profit these guys were siphoning from other investors by front running
them. This guy is very well connected
with some of the biggest, most clued-in and powerful hedge funds, so he called
in a few favors and basically got a few people to say a few things that knocked
our socks off. He was told that these
guys were making returns of 100 to 200% per annum (I am not sure this is
accurate; it seems high to me but I hope the truth will now come out. Maybe it is accurate due to the use of
leverage).
My background as an active equity manager gave me insight
into the business of trying to buy and sell large blocks of stock while making
as little impact on the market as possible.
I knew that most money managers stayed fully invested, so when they
wanted to buy stock in new ideas they also often had to also move large amounts
of stock at the same time. Often it was
more important to raise cash in a hurry than to quibble over what then were
eighths and quarters, or even points.
And often there might be a number of buyers competing to buy the same
stocks, so here again it was more important to get position than quibble over
price.
So I could easily see how effective HFTing could be. But to be making profits of as much as $30
billion a year by some reports by front running almost all transaction activity
on the exchanges? I was shocked and
horrified that the SEC was allowing this.
And I still am. By my
back-of-the-envelope math these guys have to be making a lot more than a penny
a share on average. Whatever they are
making is coming right out of the pockets of other market participants and
their beneficial interests.
Now that the cat is out of the bag it will be interesting to
see if our regulators put a stop to it.
I can imagine many large brokerage firms will hate to see it go,
especially if their own dark pools get closed down at the same time.
Eldon/Don (Mayer)
Jon, et al, it seems to me that a responsible lawmaker will provide a legal
framework which permits those charged with the administration of the system to
regulate trade. Those who participate should expect a fair transaction all other
things being equal. If my broker knows something yours does not it may result in
a greater profit when the transaction concludes. Technology, as Jon says has
clearly entered the market big time. It can give some traders better information
though "insider” information is illegal. We have put a few away for this, but
not all who have indulged by any means. I don’t know any but I’m guessing. It
does bother me (if Jon is right that the market is 80% speculation) that this is
not a good thing. What bothers me particularly are the "advantages” that some
traders have managed for themselves. Being able to negotiate a trade after the
market has closed is one example from a few years back. I think that was found
to be "inappropriate” if not illegal and no one served any hard time. As Jon
points out the newest scam is "jumping the trade.” I ask you, does this make for
a more efficient market? If you were the Wizard of Wall Street would you put an
end to it? If so, why isn’t there more protesting from our senators and
congressmen? Is it less important than Benghazi? Now I have my copy of Flash
Boys and am settling in, hoping to understand all of this better. Bart
PS: my take on the repeal of Glass/Steagal is more like Volcker’s: plenty
of problems when banks can gamble with depositer’s money.
Bart, et al.,
Better information is not "insider" information - although
it is often considered such. There was a case some years back in California
where a stock analyst specializing in insurance companies discovered what he
considered to be fraudulent accounting practices in the industry. He reported
this to the state insurance commission and got a tepid response. He kept
pressing his case with them for months with no results. Finally he sent out a
letter to his clients informing them of the problem. He was accused of
disseminating inside information, to whit - the information he gained through
his access to the companies books. He had no more access than any other analyst,
but he was able to see the potential problem and warn his clients (who paid him
for his work). Despite the fact that he first went to the authorities and they
sat on their hands he lost his license and was barred from the industry.
Another case was that of Thomas Lamont, chairman of Morgan Bank. He was
on the board of Texas Gulf Sulfur and attended a meeting one morning. TGS said
they were announcing a major ore discovery that day. On his return to his office
he sent messages to his fiduciary clients to "keep an eye on the broad tape (the
Dow/Jones news ticker) today". He did not mention the company, nor that he had
been at a board meeting, nor any other hint as to what to look for. He was
accused of disseminating insider information. The government's argument was that
information, even if published, is not general to the public until the public
has had time to absorb it. He was found innocent 18 months later, but
unfortunately for him the finding was posthumous.
The cases are
different, but have a similar theme. This is not a partisan issue, nor a recent
one (Lamont's case was in the '70s). The government regulators feel, and have
felt for a long time, that no one should have an advantage (and this applies to
many things, not just investment). That, in effect, says that if I pay a
talented analyst for his opinions I cannot act on them until the entire populace
has the benefit of them. That is very different than the collusion involved when
a real insider passes on specific information about an impending transaction or
discovery. There is a fine line, some could disagree on the Lamont case and also
the McDonnell/Douglas case where a trust officer overheard a conversation
between corporate finance officers in the Chase men's room (he was in a stall,
they were at the urinal). But there also arises the civil question of fiduciary
responsibility to paying clients. If a fiduciary gets information, no matter how
(unless it is in collusion or bribery), is he liable to civil suit by his
clients for not acting on it? I don't know the answer, and I don't think there
will ever be a true line drawn as each case has different merits.
With
my apologies for rambling on I'll come back to Glass/Steagel. I'm with Bart and
Paul Volcker (whom I lunched with often when he was an economist at Chase) on
the separation of commercial banking from investment banking. But, as I said,
the act was effectively repealed by the Bank Holding Company Act. Even now the
banks aren't actually gambling depositor's money in their trading subsidiaries,
at least not directly. But they are doing so effectively by attributing the
capital reserves of the holding company to both operations. Not meaning to pick
on CitiBank, just using them as the names work. We have the commercial bank,
then CitiGroup, then CitiCorp (or is it vice versa). The funding isn't merged,
but the effect is.
More important to me - and I'm going to beat this
dead horse as it is a pet peeve of mine (Wm. Safire always said he wanted to buy
a dog and name him Peeve so he could day "this is my pet, Peeve"), is the format
of the investment banking companies. Traditionally the investment banks were
partnerships. That started to change in the '70s and accelerated more recently
as they became corporations. The difference is that a corporation, the modern
heir of the "joint stock company" that was invented in the 15th C., has limited
liability on the part of the owners (stockholders). Their liability is limited
to their investment (the value of their stock). A partnership, on the other
hand, is owned directly by the partners and their personal liability is not
limited. If a corporation goes bankrupt the stockholders can only lose all their
investment in that corporation, they cannot lose their other assets. If a
partnership goes under and there are claims against it the partners are
responsible for all those claims personally, including the loss of their
personal assets not involved in the partnership. The lawyers among us may
dispute my description in the details, but it is close enough in principle.
Some of the most egregious transactions of the recent crunch, and of
previous crunches, have involved some very risky bets on the markets. I won't
detail them, but could. In the days when the investment banks were partnerships
they never would have been made - when that trader proposed his bet the partners
would have said "no way". The lads at AIG (after Spitzer got rid of Hank
Greenberg, who had a balanced approach) made committments in the mortgage market
on bad bets - but they only lost their jobs, not the houses and yachts they'd
bought with their bonuses. And that brings up another aspect of this. There is
no excuse for a bonus system in a corporation, unless it is an incentive for
good work. Wall Street bonuses were a tradition in partnerships, and a good one.
A partnership is not taxed, the partners are taxed as individuals. A
partnership cannot allocate income to dividends and other expenses, the income
over and above the direct expense of employee salaries is personal income to the
partners according to their percent ownership. For that reason the annual bonus
to the salaried employees is given. It is a way to share a good year with the
employees instead of the government. This may sound to some of you like
manipulation, but it isn't. "Back in the day" the employees of partnerships took
lower salaries than they might get with a corporation in the hopes that they had
chosen a good firm and would share in the good years. The bonuses weren't
individual, they were a percentage of salary. I remember a lady I dated who was
a secretary for Bill Morris's muni firm when he hit two big offerings (he
started the use of a computer to scale his bids on a time value of money
calculation). She got a year and a half salary as a bonus that year.
The
key is that those who gamble should take personal liability for that gamble. And
I'm not denigrating the gamble in the markets - there is a gamble in any
venture. In the corporate environment the only gamble by the individual is his
salary and job. That is a good thing, not all of us want to take the risk of our
assets. A good bank, be it a country bank or a major one, is an established
business with a certain format. The same applies to any other established
corporation that changes with time (I say that as there might have been a
General Buggy Whip corporation that could have lost out had it not changed to
making cars). The corporation is designed to have an infinite life time as the
share can be sold or passed on as inheritance - so it has no incentive to
exploit short term gain to the deficit of the long term. That said, too many
modern crony corporations (GE under Immelt) are looking at the short term profit
to management. Engine Charlie Wilson is quoted as saying that what is good for
GM is good for the country - but they leave out that he preceded that with what
is good for the country is good for GM. What would have been good for General
Buggy Whip would have been to gradually change their product.
OK, did it
again and got into a ramble. Let us come back to the principle of investment
versus speculation. Investment is the support of a project, the early joint
stock companies included The Virginia Company (which lost money). The stock
markets allow investors to get out of their investment if they no longer believe
in it, or if they have personal need for the money back. Other investors may
have a belief in the company, at the offered price, and buy into it. But there
are not always investors to take you out of your investment - and that is where
the speculator becomes necessary. He provides liquidity with his gambles. When
the market is basically an investment market with the liquidity provided by the
speculators it is a healthy market. Sadly our markets have become mainly
speculative, in the sense that the short term gain has become king. If the
speculators (the investment bankers who are dominated by their trading desk) are
corporations then there is no personal liability. Note that I don't denigrate
the investment banks who take positions as investors - our Bill Hambrecht took a
long term position with Apple, Genentech and others before they came to market -
they wouldn't exist without his "gamble", but it was a gamble based on an
investment decision rather than a speculative one.
A final comment, the
use of high speed computers to make large trades - be they the ones that have
been done for many years by mutual funds and other funds or this new "jumping
the trade" with a high speed connection - are not speculations in the proper
sense of the word. The approximately five or ten major go-go fund managers in
Wall Street in the late sixties and early seventies who drank together at the
"in" bar (can't remember the name) didn't collude, but they tried to figure
where the other was going. Investment became a thing of the past with most funds
back then - but it still exists (Buffet and Icahn, and others - all in different
ways).
Laws or regulations won't cure the problem, they will just
provide more ways to get around them. Many years ago I had a rule I wanted to
enforce. You can buy any amount of stock you want (as a percentage of the
outstanding stock of the corporation) in a single trade or a close sequence of
trades. But you can only sell a certain percent over a period of time. Not a
practical rule, nor even necessary. Remember the Texas brothers who tried to
corner the market (I think it was silver, but it might have been another
commodity). They got to 80% (about), then went broke they found they couldn't
control it.
Simple rule. Personal liability for trading firms (other
than the dealers who buy inventory for the day to day transactions - but they
aren't a problem). That is self policing. My old buddy Paul would probably
agree.
Best,
Jon (Murphy)
They say they aren't adding much to the cost of trading. Well I have an article
written by one of the HFTs who say they only make a nickel a share. Taking that
at face value, if you assume they account for 60% of trading (reports are
60-70%) that means they, in the aggregate, are registering a gross profit of
over $25 billion/year. That means they are costing the parties who are buying
and selling that much money. A nickel doesn't sound like much but $25 billion
does!
And it is not old news. I've spoken to many, and very few know the real
story.
Don (Mayer)
Well, I finished the book ( Flash Boys) and full of indignation I assaulted
my friends the stock brokers who ride (bikes) with me on weekends. "What about
all of this Œfrontending‚ that is costing the poor pensioner millions in
unnecessary and expensive trading." Oh, Bart, this is so old news. "But I didn‚t
know about it until I read the book. And a lot of Americans must not have known,
because Sixty Minutes and the New York Times Magazine just featured Brad
Katsuyama. If these high speed traders are making millions for doing nothing
worthwhile, why tolerate them?" Well, they aren‚t adding much to the cost of
trading, it‚s a drop in the bucket. "But why pay them anything at all? Why not
put all the trades thru the IEX, the honest guys who are trying to run the
market the right way?" Oh Bart you are so simple. "I hope Mary Jo White gets
into this." Did you know, Bart that a private group of high speed traders have
built a fibre optic line from London to Hong Kong? This is big business. "I want
to spit and call my broker at Charles Schwab to tell him I want my trades to go
through the IEX. He calls back to say he never heard of them. I buy him a copy
of The Flash Boys. My trades are being managed in Chuck's dark pool, I just know
it." Bart
Read Jamie Stewart’s review of the book in yesterday’s NY Times Book Review
Section for a more balanced view of the book [well told but
mediocre/incomplete].
"Investing" as it has been done forever, for practical purposes, has never
been "fair”. Insider information was the winning ticket until recent years, and
there is no way to stop it altogether. Technology has leveled the playing field
in terms of transparency in pricing, the fees charged by intermediaries and who
can get to the offered shares first to a large extent, but, as the book shows,
it is still possible to build a better mousetrap and gain at least a short term
advantage.
However, what seems to be overlooked is that "investing” has rarely, if
ever, been much more than a wide spread form of betting on the ponies. [True,
there are more protections in both this games than buying a Lottery Ticket, but
only as a meter of degree.] No one expects to have an "ownership” interest in a
company or a horse. Intermediaries acting for them [including the managers of
your pension fund and the University’s endowment] do their homework
- about the track/an industry,
- how well a particular company is structured/ the horse’s blood lines,
- how object is staffed & managed/trained & ridden,
- how well it has done lately in different conditions on different tracks,
and
- evaluates the competition & forecast [weather/financial] for the
expected duration of the race
with the hope that the betting ticket will be redeemed or shares sold for
more than was paid for each.
We are all individually and collectively wagering our life savings on
largely uncertain outcomes. The horse players get their winnings from the people
who bet on other horses. The investors sell to someone who expects the "interest
in the company” will sell for a higher price tomorrow than he can buy it for
today. [Incidentally, the stake is only worth what someone else will pay for it,
not an estimated liquidation value or "present value of its "projected”
earnings.] A few investors may measure their "returns in the dividended share of
a company’s earnings paid to him/her/it as a share holder, [but only if they/it
inherited their stake].
Our intermediaries stock brokers, race track touts, company management,
trainers, etc., for the most part, all want to do well for us because they get a
transaction fee and sometime a share of winnings. However, it is our capital
that is the foundation of their participation in the game, and its loss our
risk. Virtue among individual intermediaries is an ethical question ["If I get
the fee reduced for executing the transaction, should I share some of it with my
investor client? He was happy paying a standard fee and doesn’t expect it.
However, if I weren’t investing his money there would be no "saving”. - a
quandary]. Dark Pools are just another variation.
But I go on . . . read also Ron Lieber’s article on Randy Kurtz w/comments
& Link to more in yesterday’s NY Times, as well. I particularly like the
quote attributed to Warren Buffet, to the effect, "I only have two or three
really great ideas a year. A fund manager claims to make 80 a month.”
Hope we make to the finish line with enough in our pockets to pay the
fare.
Bruce (Rosborough)
So your stockbroker fellow bicyclers pooh-pooh
high-speed trading margins as "a drop in the bucket"? OK.... The next time you
ride with them, ask them what they think of adding "a drop in the bucket" with
a use tax on all stock and securities transactions. Those
"drops" that would help fund socially useful stuff, not just add fourth homes
for a bunch of nerds.
--Alan (Tucker)
April 15, 2014
Ms. Mary Jo White
Chair
Securities Exchange Commission
100 F St NE
Washington DC 20549
Dear Ms. White,
I am a retired money manager, having worked as a broker at
Kidder, Peabody for several years before joining an institutional client as a
portfolio manager in 1970. I started my
own firm in 1976, and worked there until retiring in 1997. We were an active, performance oriented
equity manager, and ran relatively concentrated portfolios, so it was quite
common for us to be buying or selling large blocks of stock, with values
sometimes approaching a half a billion dollars.
So I am familiar with the process of executing fairly large stock orders
under all kinds of market conditions.
Not too many years ago I noticed that the market was
behaving peculiarly, so out of curiosity I began asking around to find out what
was going on. It was then that I heard
the term high frequency trading. Before
long I found that it was accounting for over half of the trading volume in the
market. Inferentially I knew that there
must be profits in this activity, so I set about trying to find out the who and
how of it. Soon I realized that it
basically was front running, done in great secrecy. Unlike other investment firms (if this can be
called investing) it seemed impossible to find out how profitable it was. Finally I was told that these operators
typically were making 100-200% per annum, with almost never a loss day!
I tried to figure out how such returns are possible by
scalping pennies, and concluded that this might be possible by using
considerable leverage.
We have here an activity that makes it more expensive for
other investors to buy or sell stocks, with the difference going into the
pockets of the high frequency traders who are front running a high percentage
of all transactions.
I am not a lawyer but cannot believe that this activity is
legal. It is taking money out of the
pockets of just about all investors by taking unfair advantage. What it amounts to is if you have or can put
your hands on the considerable amount of money required to invest in the
necessary technology and pay bright programmers, and if you have well-honed
greed glands and a willingness to essentially steal money from others, our
regulators have allowed you to set up shop with no questions asked.
I am glad to see the SEC going aggressively after insider
trading but that is small potatoes compared to what the high frequency traders
are doing. This activity should be
stopped immediately. I hope to read soon
that you are closing it down.
Sincerely, Eldon C. Mayer, Jr.
Since writing this I have found out that profits per trade of the HFTs have been running five cents. Thus they are garnering in excess of $25 billion of the returns that rightfully belong to others!
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LANG: (Stevenson)
What Don’s letter doesn’t mention is, to me,
as we discussed in the car on Saturday, the biggest sin of all; that unlike
exchange specialists who were given exemption from many of the rules governing
other investors in return for agreeing to put their capital to work to maintain
an orderly market, the flash traders have no such obligation. They’re getting a
free ride and can run for cover at the first sign of volatility in excess of
their computer risk tolerances, e.g. the "Flash Crash” which should have been
the "canary in the coal mine,” so to speak but nothing seems to have come of
that event.
Heads they win; tails we lose.
TONY (Weinress)